In this episode of The Dark State, host John Mooney delves into the critical and often overlooked world of undersea infrastructure with expert Eoin McNamara. Titled Subsurface, the episode explores how the vast network of data cables and energy pipelines beneath our oceans is essential to global security and commerce. With great power tensions rising, these undersea lifelines have become prime targets for hybrid warfare. Join us as we discuss NATO’s efforts to safeguard this infrastructure, the legal complexities of international waters, and the emerging threats that could disrupt our interconnected world.

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The Dark State is an influential podcast about the security threats facing modern Ireland, Europe and the modern world.
The podcast is hosted by the journalist John Mooney, who interviews experts on organised crime, terrorism, national security and defence to bring you an inside perspective on the most pressing issues of the day.
Some podcasts are made available to the public to help raise awareness about the threats posed to western democracies by hostile states, terrorist groups and organised crime.
The Dark State is an influential podcast about the security threats facing modern Ireland, Europe and the modern world.
The podcast is hosted by the journalist John Mooney, who interviews experts on organised crime, terrorism, national security and defence to bring you an inside perspective on the most pressing issues of the day.
Some podcasts are made available to the public to help raise awareness about the threats posed to western democracies by hostile states, terrorist groups and organised crime.Listen on
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